Vedian

It wasn't so much that I was surrounded by enemies(the whole GALAXY was my enemy)....it was that I would have had to fight 5 or 6 of them at the same time, only 50 years in and with barely any systems to build up in.

After how the last one went, I'm not at all sure about this. Nothing ruins my day faster than surprise pvp.

Tis a sad day in the history of Stellaris games. Our glorious host has been eliminated during the 2nd session.

@Kriege7 I would never....I would make him a tributary, and all his tributaries would become my tributaries so of course he'll survive...with maybe less control over his destiny.

@KalianVan My machine empire is ready

Awesome. My machine empire awaits, and if I can work some things out, the return of the SPQR too.

@Feladris I would be willing to give it a shot, I don't have all the expansions though so that might be an issue. I'm as green as spring grass when it comes to civ 6 so, I won't complain about long turns.

@Phoenix @Kriege7 @KalianVan Welp, game 8 has come to a close. Due to some glitchy aggravation we cut it short, but I think we know who won...

@Kriege7 Oh I didn't actually look at what they are, but for those "Just don't feel right" wars, it will feel less right to sit by and wait for an AI to kill them and gain those level 6 shields, reactors and thrusters, nevermind those super FE planets. In my solo game I killed a caretaker, just to stop all the spiritualists from getting that sweet FE loot(the whole galaxy was nothing but spiritualists including an FE, 1 materialist FE, 1 machine FE and 1 machine empire)

@Kriege7 Because I've occupied the planets of a FE. They are crazy good for solidifying your economy, which is why I mean to take the one in the NW corner next.

@Phoenix @Kriege7 I hope you won't mind but I think I'm going to subjugate AI you as a means of keeping access to your territory.....players turned AI have this tendency of going super hostile toward my glorious machine empire, no matter how favorably I deal with them.

I'm on it, just building up my naval cap and fleets...I overestimated the effect fighting a 3 front war would have on their fleet power. I figured they would have been so divided fighting everyone at once I could storm their capital and end them, but they kept back most of their fleet there.

I was more referring to the genocide/turning you into a human battery, but I can't think of one good reason not to borgify every organic pop on my planets unless you mean to go psionic, 'borgs are just better in every way.

The irony of that statement is an organic empire is just as able to do that to you as driven assimilators, determined exterminators or just a regular old machine intelligence. Are we now going to discuss banning materialists?

Well there you have it, to everyone complaining about machine empires, they'll be nerfed into the ground. Can't play wide, sprawl will kill you, can't play tall, sprawl will kill you. No equivalent admin cap increasing jobs for machine empires means they have to be short and narrow, making them irrelevant, since even leaving systems unclaimed increases sprawl if you control all hyperlanes needed to access those systems. I hope this puts to rest the idea that we need to ban machine empires from future games.