Jinn Galia

Thanks all for stepping up!  I look forward to seeing where you can take PvP and WvW!

53 minutes ago, Hrom said:

I don't think it would be superfluous. It can bring invuln, alacrity, extra resist, it's own cc, portal, and probably a few things that are slipping my mind. With a FB though, we'd probably want three pure DDs.

I can pure DD if you want, or I can Support FB.  Either is good for me!

9 hours ago, Hrom said:

I agree on the cleanses, @RaVem. I'll start assembling a comprehensive list tomorrow.

 

As far as calling for fields in the middle of a fight, I think water should be used in every fight if available with the person dropping them calling "water on tag" and everyone knowing to blast it. Light definitely looks promising. Frost and fire are strong going into a fight, and smoke is situationally useful. Dark is good to drop on a bundle of downs to blind them and help with stomps/cleaves. Lightning is solid when moving across the map when you don't have a rev crapping out swift.

 

Your group comp looks solid. Good sustain with damage, and I'm also a fan of cc. The DD/support would be a good slot for a Cele scourge that can pop out decent barriers along with damage.

 

I think your minstrel might fit into a cc/support role, and portal can be pretty devastating if a group knows what they're doing. Do you think you could give a comparison of your ghetto minstrel and the trailblazer-ish build would bring?

 

For group size, as many people as are interested, but I'd imagine between 5-10 every week. I'd like to start with 5 man, but any discussion on larger is more than welcome. It would be awesome for some of this to bleed over to our Wednesday night group.

 

 

I would definitely be interested in getting a 5-10 man hardcore group together, where we can learn some of the better tactics that I've seen lately with more experienced guilds, and work with a more cohesive group composition.

Hey @Hrom.  Thanks for setting this up!

I've been thinking over the past few weeks about how we could incorporate a more hardcore WvW event/night/group, with players dedicated to knowomg their role and playstyle, and going into the event with the expectation that we will be a bit more serious and expect better outcomes than usual.  

I thought about having a core group of dedicated players who will cover some of the core roles to at least give us a base, and allow others to bring their builds, sort of like pugs to fill.  At least to start.  This may not be optimal right now, but it's what we have to work with right now.  

 

To my WvW rookie eyes, that would mean having 2-3 FBs, Spellbreakers, and 4-6 Bombers (power revs or scourges), in a squad with 2-3 subgroups. 

I know that in WvW, a well coordinated composition is best for outcomes, but if we don't want to make it totally exclusive, then having some of the core roles covered allows us to be competitive while still being INclusive.  

 

Going over some of the main people who WvW quite regularly, we can cover 3 FB, 3 SB and 3 Scourge right off the bat, with 1 support chrono.  I'd say that's a pretty good start.  Thoughts? 

I am definitely in tomorrow!  I had an awesome time and have been trying to recruit more to our cause!

2 hours ago, Squeeks said:

@Hrom, What's a good guardian build for havoc? 

I have been using the Meditrapper build and it's been pretty awesome!  Great mobility, decent burst and good sustain!

On 10/25/2017 at 9:26 AM, Hrom said:

Semi-relevant info

 

Owinn (Samis), Olsi, Casi (GrimRiddles), Jak, Aurelious, Science (scarecrow), Dbunny (ZerotheFang), and myself (Aleph) have all run havoc. Additionally, I know that you, Ravem, and Shant have expressed interest in havoc.

 

Of these members, here are the classes I remember seeing for WvW (sorry if I misremember something):

 

Owinn - herald

Olsi - firebrand, warrior

Casi - necro 

Jak - thief

Aurelious - ranger

Science - necro

Dbunny - necro (?)

Hrom - herald, spellbreaker

Jinn - undecided

Ravem - soulbeast, firebrand

Shant - guardian

 

Also of note:

Erin - thief

Merb - guardian and, I think, herald

Slailie - ?

I am running a Meditrapper Roaming DH build.  It has been super fun so far!

What are you guys running @ViVshotfirst @Shaaahn @Yakazi @Maeric @Penarddun @Raeb?

Looks like a pretty good group we got going here!

Jinn

@Shaaahn @Maeric @Penarddun

Join us in here!

who's down for next week's WvW/karaoke discussion/Everquest memorial? LOL

Hey @Yakazi.  Here's the club I was telling you about.  Can discuss how to make wvw builds, different classes and wvw tactics.  I know there was also a beginner guide that's starting.

Would be fun to see you and @pareod get in here!

Jinn

I plan on trying out a core warrior build I like if I can make it out with you guys on next Wednesday.  

8 hours ago, Hrom said:

Definitely! We'll just push y'all out front and run when an enemy zerg appears. I mean, uhh, we would love to have your company.

 

Nice! We'd love to have you out there. Owinn led a fun havoc tonight.

 

Do you guys mainly run builds that are team-centric, or do you run self-sustainable builds?  I know that there are alot of methods to building a wvw character.  I will never be soloing and always in a group, but even then, I read that some prefer self-sustainable builds.  Thoughts?

@Hrom, you sure you want me, @RaVem, @Mevraz and @ViVshotfirst to join you guys? Haha

3 hours ago, Hrom said:

 

We don't have a group comp at this time. When we start running a steadyish group, that's something we can do.

 

For roaming and havoc, with recommended professions bolded:

Necro - Scourge seems popular even after the nerf. Reaper is, I'm sure, still nasty in WvW.

Mesmer - condi roamer build when solo; for group, maybe would go with more of a power build with tricky utilities mixed in

Elementalist - healing auramancer for havoc; not sure on weaver roaming yet

Ranger - Soulbeast seems popular but I keep killing them, soooo (honestly, well-played vanilla rangers give me fits)

Thief - Daredevil; not sure I'd take a Deadeye to havoc

Engineer - ?

Warrior - Spellbreaker is pretty op, but I've been crushed by well-played Berserker specs for months.

Guardian - Firebrand. When in havoc, probably want to sprinkle in one or two stability skills.

Revenant - My preference is condi rev with boonshare for havoc and power rev for solo.

 

But, really, take what you're most comfortable with or what you're most interested in.

 

 

 

Semi-relevant info

 

Owinn (Samis), Olsi, Casi (GrimRiddles), Jak, Aurelious, Science (scarecrow), Dbunny (ZerotheFang), and myself (Aleph) have all run havoc. Additionally, I know that you, Ravem, and Shant have expressed interest in havoc.

 

Of these members, here are the classes I remember seeing for WvW (sorry if I misremember something):

 

Owinn - herald

Olsi - firebrand, warrior

Casi - necro 

Jak - thief

Aurelious - ranger

Science - necro

Dbunny - necro (?)

Hrom - herald, spellbreaker

Jinn - undecided

Ravem - soulbeast, firebrand

Shant - guardian

 

Also of note:

Erin - thief

Merb - guardian and, I think, herald

Slailie - ?

 

Thanks for the reply @Hrom.  I think a few of us may want to join in on the Borderlands fun.  What do you guys usually do on Wednesdays and what are you looking for, in order to have a Wed "group"?  Are the above players regulars on the Wednesday runs?

Thanks!

Jinn

It's been a long while since I've done WvW so I'm excited to do it again if we have a dedicated group that does roaming or havoc. Not a huge fan of following the zerg,  bit I'll take part if that's what we are doing.  What type of builds are good nowadays or is anything our 'team' needs?

Thanks!